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Post by ®onnie ®ude on Mar 23, 2008 5:19:29 GMT -5
Project Second Chances Okay, now that I'm no longer admin...or modding I can concentrate on this w/ whatever time I have on my hands. I'm not asking for much, but just to be able to speak w/ Defectron, Tjad, Kbell, Benry, Balance and a few others to make this shit work will be sufficient enough. Basically what I'm setting out to accomplish 1st is a fanfic of 3 phases of Gantz teams that will include story plots of Room 1, Project Southern and Eastern. This fanfic will basically outline everything that will take place in the flash. Somewhat of a literature version before hitting the bigger screen of flash animation. (will need to request use of) Pending Characters: Shirow, T-bag, Zerojii, Tjad, Shadow, Lance Fredrickson and many other active forum member's characters. If you were in Eastern or Southern its a given that I'll most likely want to use your character. Character's I won't use: There won't be any Kurono's or Kishimoto's neither will their be any Resident Evil or stolen characters that appeared in Southern. Everyone will be new and fresh except for the originals. Also expect to see...
- New Plot developments...
- New Gantzers...
- Altered Missions...
- Side Plots...(meaning the story doesn't just follow a main character)
- New Villains...
- Vampires...
- New Weaponry...
- And last, but not least... actual completion!
[/li][/ul] So, why do I need help w/ this? Most of these character's are yours and not mine...so it's impossible to get them just right. So, I want to work with you to create character templates showing everything that's important about YOUR character. What I'll Need...Volunteers to Work w/ Me For:- Voice Acting (way later...)
- Character Plotting...
- Plot
- Alien Design...
- Suggestions
Permission to browse site history...Including Eastern. (I don't need to be a mod for this...just send me links to the hidden boards) Permission to borrow some plot from other projects as well as use of some role player's characters... (w/ credit given of coarse) Then...when the fanfic is completed you can see it all compiled in a flash animation that will place 2 years of hard earned plot into the spotlight that it deserves. So...its one of those take my hand or walk away kinds of deals...Would you like to be credited for all your hard work as rpers or not? If so feel free to post whether or not you'd be willing to lend a hand if your help is requested. (Trust me it'll be nothing major...)
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Post by Benry on Mar 23, 2008 11:21:53 GMT -5
i'd give u permission to use tbag but only if u consult me when important decisions will arise (like escaping from battle or kill someone given the chance etc..) EDIT: also i thought u were going to leave the site in a week or two so how u ganna do all fanfic and flash in that time?
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Post by Defectron on Mar 23, 2008 11:28:21 GMT -5
Quantum Magic!
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Post by ®onnie ®ude on Mar 23, 2008 13:03:19 GMT -5
i'd give u permission to use tbag but only if u consult me when important decisions will arise (like escaping from battle or kill someone given the chance etc..) EDIT: also i thought u were going to leave the site in a week or two so how u ganna do all fanfic and flash in that time? I no longer can promise how often I'll be on so just consider me not even active basically.
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Post by nishi on Mar 23, 2008 14:09:54 GMT -5
Sure Ronnie you can use my characters if you want, I'm not sure what I would be able to do to help but if you need something I'll see what I can do to help I guess.
Heres to hoping that this project will work.
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Post by KßзŁŁ on Mar 23, 2008 14:46:55 GMT -5
If you let me make Zerojii's decisions I have no problem allowing you to use him. I'll of course help you with most everything you need volunteers for (voice acting would be pretty easy I think) except alien design; I'm going to have my hands full designing my own aliens for new southern.
I'm not making a template for Zero, you'll either let me make his decisions or you won't use him. That's how I feel as of now, but that would of course require much more communication between us than I've been seeing lately.
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Post by Benry on Mar 23, 2008 15:06:03 GMT -5
ditto, what kbell said. I'm willing to help in character plotting and in the plot if u wish. but u still have to answer my question
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Post by The Merc on Mar 23, 2008 17:56:52 GMT -5
I'd like to point out that while he is using our characters it is ultimately his fanfic so he's automatically permitted to use some liberties with the characters. I've proposed to him a plan which would allow for a mix of our input with his creative liscence however it is his choice as to whether he'll use it or not.
In other words: While he may consult you on some shit, don't expect to be able to control every minute detail of the character like in a normal project.
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Post by ®onnie ®ude on Mar 23, 2008 18:38:43 GMT -5
In other words: While he may consult you on some shit, don't expect to be able to control every minute detail of the character like in a normal project. I couldn't have put it a better way. If way too much leeway is given it'll be possible for you to decide whether or not your character survives the entire ordeal. Basically what I'll do is pitch to you certain scenarios and I'll want you to let me know how you like it and whether or not it fits w/ how your character would react to such situations. (This is where the character templates come in. I'll need those for all characters being used...) This is why I'm suggesting that you allow me to work alongside you to find out what is unique or interesting about your gantzer so I can actually "become them" when it comes time to write about them. An example of this would be of me taking over for your character while you were away as to how I did w/ Lance, Kramarr and Theodore. Either way, If theres anything that I change about your character whether it be background, personality or etc etc...I will tell you no matter how major or small. If you disagree I will work it out w/ you until we arrive to an agreement, because this will be about our site and your characters.
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Post by Defectron on Mar 23, 2008 18:47:34 GMT -5
Yeah I guess I could lend a hand with stuff. Not sure what yet though.
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Post by Virtuoso on Mar 23, 2008 18:52:37 GMT -5
Basically what I'll do is pitch to you certain scenarios and I'll want you to let me know...how your character would react to such situations. So it's basically like those old Goosebumps books? Y'know, where for the most part you have no control over your character. But then, every once in a while, you have two options as to how to go about something. And if you make the wrong choice, you die.
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Post by ®onnie ®ude on Mar 23, 2008 18:58:22 GMT -5
Basically what I'll do is pitch to you certain scenarios and I'll want you to let me know...how your character would react to such situations. So it's basically like those old Goosebumps books? Y'know, where for the most part you have no control over your character. But then, every once in a while, you have two options as to how to go about something. And if you make the wrong choice, you die. I guess you can put it that way, but for some parts the deaths will end up being exactly how they happened in the actual rp. I'm really just rambling atm, but every now and then I'll begin posting information on how everything will play out. I will then also pm ppl pitching story ideas that they can possibly critique and make even better. Edit: Besides...this isn't about whether your character lives or dies. Its about you accepting the fact that each of your characters that you used have a story to tell. Depending on how well or unique you want your story to be told will determine how good this will all be in the end. For example, have you ever watched a movie and saw a character you liked get killed? That's what I'm trying to do. Even if your character dies I'm not trying to bs you into making your characters look bad. Its up to you whether or not to help me w/ my ideas, so that you yourself can appreciate your character's role in the story. There will not be just a main character! There will be side stories and a character who helps move the story along...If it is planned oor decided by me that they die the story will move on. I'll also even put up votes for you guys to decide on where to go on w/ the plot.
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Post by Virtuoso on Mar 23, 2008 19:56:20 GMT -5
Sounds cool. Forgot to say it earlier, but feel free to use Luke. Got no problems with that. And I'll help with anything I can. But, y'know, you could just leave him out. *sniff*
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Post by Shad² on Mar 24, 2008 12:54:21 GMT -5
i'm behind it a 100%
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Post by Benry on Mar 24, 2008 15:25:42 GMT -5
alright then...
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Post by nishi on Mar 24, 2008 15:59:25 GMT -5
The most interesting aspect to me is that it follows all the characters and their stories, kind of like how Gantz played out in the beginning. Should we make up some random characters? So theres more chances for deaths?
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Post by jjrev609 on Mar 24, 2008 17:09:45 GMT -5
making random characters to get into second chances was one of the rules made if i remember correctly. Having a character that you've spent quality time on, rped and developed the character, and actually enjoyed the character then having them in second chances would be more like a chance to keep playing that character rather than wait for him or her to get revived. So making a random character just for the sake of getting into second chances kinda takes out some of the fun imo.
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Post by Cmdr. Maegil on Mar 24, 2008 18:34:31 GMT -5
The point here, I believe, is that if you make a character already knowing he'll die soon after, you won't create any emotional links to it, and won't be able to RP it correctly precisely due to this lack of an empathic connection. As a result, you get nothing but an empty shell with no drives or objectives, or even will to survive. BTW, this also happens to real people who know they're going to die and surrender to desperation.
NPCs, on the other hand, don't need these links, as the mod (or GM) won't be so attached to the characters, but to the plot - making the NPCs part of an organic structure, and infusing life into them.
I know this is one of the problems in creating PCs for Forever, but they're not sure to die there; hopefully this slim survival chance should be enough to keep desperation at bay...
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Post by nishi on Mar 24, 2008 18:54:37 GMT -5
making random characters to get into second chances was one of the rules made if i remember correctly. Having a character that you've spent quality time on, rped and developed the character, and actually enjoyed the character then having them in second chances would be more like a chance to keep playing that character rather than wait for him or her to get revived. So making a random character just for the sake of getting into second chances kinda takes out some of the fun imo. I only asked because Ronnie said he may need to change around some of the events that had happened, if that were the case different factors such as people or animals may need to be implemented to change said events to what is needed for his story. Of course I can understand that they may be 'empty' due to lack of connection between the creator and creation(character) and thats why I offered up my characters that I had made and play as to be used should Ronnie want to use them. I just wanted to offer to make some randomly thought up characters should they be needed, if they are not needed then no harm no foul.
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Post by Tame on Mar 30, 2008 13:33:23 GMT -5
Feel free to use my character, as with the others'. And good luck with it all, I look forward to the results.
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Post by KßзŁŁ on Apr 5, 2008 14:29:23 GMT -5
hmm.. I had actually gone against what I said I'd do and made a template, but I'm not sure what thread that was in. Oh well. I'm also looking forward to the results Tell us a fuckin' story Ronnie. xD
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Post by Dane on Apr 5, 2008 16:25:47 GMT -5
I hope this turns out really well Who are you going to get to do the voice acting?
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Post by jjrev609 on Apr 5, 2008 18:16:24 GMT -5
I hope this turns out really well Who are you going to get to do the voice acting? not yo bitch ass.....Ronnie said so himself....
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Post by Virtuoso on Apr 6, 2008 2:12:50 GMT -5
What about my bitch ass? ;D
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Post by jjrev609 on Apr 6, 2008 3:00:02 GMT -5
What about my bitch ass? ;D Ronnie said sure why not edit: and he said u can be Dane
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Post by Defectron on Apr 6, 2008 16:42:10 GMT -5
Well since Dan is pretty much my self insert character I can do his voice. Anyway once this gets going we'll probably need to look beyond the forums for some of the voices since there alot of parts.
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Post by KßзŁŁ on Apr 6, 2008 17:29:15 GMT -5
I should only really need like grunts and shit for Zerojii; his ass never talks anyways.
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Post by jjrev609 on Apr 6, 2008 18:21:52 GMT -5
i've already started looking for people that would be interested in doin VA around me so we shouldn't have that much trouble.
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Post by The Merc on Apr 6, 2008 19:24:03 GMT -5
Not to mention there's that girl I todl ya all about who said she wouldn't mind doing the VA once she sees the written work.
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Post by Dane on Apr 6, 2008 19:40:23 GMT -5
I hope this turns out really well Who are you going to get to do the voice acting? not yo bitch ass.....Ronnie said so himself.... Okay, one thing, I never said anything about myself doing it, and two, why the hell not and what's it got to do with you J? It seems like all you do is try to pick fights with people with stupid comments like that. I asked a simple question and you've gotta give some stupid answer. Besides, I never even asked you, sir, so I don't see why you're answering.
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