Animals & Vampires...hell even super heroes.

[®onnie ®ude]

Its come to my attention that Animals, Vampires and even Super Heroes are constantly being talked about around the site. In our FAQ we state that Super Heroes or anything of that sort is not allowed in our roleplay.

Despite what others might tell you about animals or vampires being made that doesn't give you the right to make any of that sort until a proper announcement has been made or its inclusion in Rules and FAQ.

If a role player is somehow accepted into a project that is an animal, super hero or vampire it is entirely up to the mods that accepted them to deal with for it has already been unrecommended. I for one wouldn't like to roleplay with anything around that hasn't been accepted by admins or properly modified for proper rping.

So if you have a problem with anything of that sort from now on I'd just like to inform you that its now in your respective mods hands. Not only that, but if or when a template is made for such characters you or the mod should be prepared to modify your unacceptable character so that it meets the new criteria.


Feel free to post and voice your concerns on this, but keep it under control.


And...

When a character dies in Gantz from now on it'd be appreciated if the mod were to state when, where and how they died for future reference. This will be needed if they are wished back or used in the revival project. Thanks.

Also, we the admins are currently working on flaws and perks that will also need to be modified into the existing characters so keep an eye out for that as well.

[gattsu]

Well super heroes are to overpowering. I think we may be able to include psychic users. You just have to place appropriate limits on them. I mean you have a muscle rider clone (basically) in one of your projects. Even in the manga two psckers aren't that overpowered (kaze, kuruno, nishi, izumi all seem more powerful then them). And should have limits as to how times they can use (like in the manga), and to the extent which their power will prove effective.

[KßзŁŁ]

Personally I think psychics are way overpowered. The only reason the ones in the manga aren't overpowered is because they're bitches; I've never seen one of them fight without having to resort to pyschic crap. I'd like to go on record saying I'm totally against having psychics in the projects. Vampires are stretching it already, but they at least get balanced by not having a suit to begin with. I don't want to have some asshole be able to just god mode another rper out of being able to fight by picking them up.

[®onnie ®ude]

kbell said:

I don't want to have some asshole be able to just god mode another rper out of being able to fight by picking them up.

*picks Kbell up with his mind and tosses him out the board*

Gattsu if your referring to Kiba as our Muscle Rider...thats an insult to...uh er muscle rider...Kiba's more of a Pony Rider...

[KßзŁŁ]

yeah I'm not sure why but I always picture that motherfucker as 4 feet tall

[®onnie ®ude]

kbell said:

yeah I'm not sure why but I always picture that motherfucker as 4 feet tall

And so the kiba bashing commenced...

[gattsu]

Well they can still shoot, and anyway that's what I mean by a balancing factor. They can't have something simple like "feels no emotions" as a weakness. They need to have something major. Anyway lifting someone in the air, only does something if they don't have a gun. A good example would be in the Izumi massacre where that happens and he still dies. Your strength is only allowed to be psychic powers, and you have to have a major weakness. Anyway just because they want something to happen with their mind... doesn't mean it will happen (that's decided by the mod, it takes concentration, and sometimes that isn't enough) Plus, every time you use it, you age your internal organs.... weakening your body.

Something that might be a weakness for a psychic is.... "morbid fear of technology, has massive spasms whenever picking up anything invented before 1955.

Pony rider, man that actually made me laugh.

[jjrev609]

i see no point in psychic characters, super hero's arent allowed because it's stated in the FAQ that if u make a super hero you can't have ANY powers, and does the "include cause of death in mission" apply to me since some people dont consider me a project?

[®onnie ®ude]

jpimpin said:

i see no point in psychic characters, super hero's arent allowed because it's stated in the FAQ that if u make a super hero you can't have ANY powers, and does the "include cause of death in mission" apply to me since some people dont consider me a project?

if ur board name includes the word Project you are a project imo.

[Shad²]

let me put it this way: No characters with superhuman powers are allowed in the Projects. This means no superheroes, no psychics and no bitches. Well maybe you can have bitches but no superpowers and psychics.

[Defectron]

and no bitches.

Uhoh....

[®onnie ®ude]

defectron said:

and no bitches.

Uhoh....

Yes, Def...that means you too.

[KßзŁŁ]

tjad said:

Well maybe you can have bitches but no superpowers and psychics.

did you guys neglect to finish reading his post or something?

[®onnie ®ude]

kbell said:

tjad said:

Well maybe you can have bitches but no superpowers and psychics.

did you guys neglect to finish reading his post or something?

oh I read it, but I'll never pass up the chance to shame Defectron.

[Defectron]

But I have no shame!

[Shad²]

You are going off topic because of a little comment.

[Ecker]

Stop this philosophy thing LoL It's settled already

[KßзŁŁ]

you know after coming back here today I am in total agreement with tjad... I guess I must have filtered all the BS posts out with my mind last time I came to this thread. Oops.

I think you were right, Tjad... we went off topic. Lets get back on it.

So the consensus is pretty much against having psychics, am I right? I saw a few people talking about how they thought it would be something neat to try out, but most of the experienced RPers I recognize seemed to have been against it. Also, gattsu, psychics don't just pick up and throw and stuff, they can pop your heart/brain if they feel like it. It only took cherry like a few days to learn how to do it iirc, so anyone coming in already having psychic powers (sakata taught cherry within a few weeks it seemed) would probably have decent control over them. I guess I'm just an advocate of having enemies that can be destroyed using the normal gantz weaponry.

*NOTE*

Ecker's post:

ecker said:

Stop this philosophy thing LoL It's settled already

was directed at me; I was being stupid and wrote something about how going off topic is good. I now think I was wrong, so I deleted it. Sorry if this confused anybody.

[gattsu]

I know this is kind of rehashing an old topic where the tide is against me, but if you ever created Gantz experimental missions (a board run like regular board that regularly tested out new rules) I think it would be fun to test out.

The fact that a psychic can kill you (it would have to be modified to close up) is no different in my mind then creating Bruce Lee (who's speed and skill is inhuman) as a character. He could easily kill you in one blow (or even half a blow, or even with his fingernail, or hair).

Now my idea to balance out a psychic character would be fourfold:

A: The use and power of psychic powers is limited.
B. Each time you use your psychic powers you cause internal bleeding which if you use the powers in excess in a mission will eventually cause you to die.
C. Each time you use your psychic powers your internal organs age (I think that's what happened in the manga) causing your physical body to be gradually weaker (of course this would happen in very small increments).
D. They can't be skilled in any of the other areas (that doesn't include intelligence) like melee, and shooting.

And even in the Gantz manga... opponents aren't always killed with the help of Gantz Tech. look at the dinosaur mission, and Kaze.

[®onnie ®ude]

gattsu said:

I know this is kind of rehashing an old topic where the tide is against me, but if you ever created Gantz experimental missions (a board run like regular board that regularly tested out new rules) I think it would be fun to test out.

The fact that a psychic can kill you (it would have to be modified to close up) is no different in my mind then creating Bruce Lee (who's speed and skill is inhuman) as a character. He could easily kill you in one blow (or even half a blow, or even with his fingernail, or hair).

Now my idea to balance out a psychic character would be fourfold:

A: The use and power of psychic powers is limited.
B. Each time you use your psychic powers you cause internal bleeding which if you use the powers in excess in a mission will eventually cause you to die.
C. Each time you use your psychic powers your internal organs age (I think that's what happened in the manga) causing your physical body to be gradually weaker (of course this would happen in very small increments).
D. They can't be skilled in any of the other areas (that doesn't include intelligence) like melee, and shooting.

And even in the Gantz manga... opponents aren't always killed with the help of Gantz Tech. look at the dinosaur mission, and Kaze.

Turns out the Forever Mission will soon become something of that nature. If you wanted to mod a mission with Psychic characters it will be possible for you to do such if you make sure to kill them off when done.

[KßзŁŁ]

Well, Sakata said in the manga that his organs had aged when he first met Cherry iirc; that doesn't mean necessarily that gantz wouldn't heal that aging when he teleports them. I like the idea of psychics not being able to have any kind of Tech, but I wouldn't ever want to see a psychic in a real project. Maybe if someone had like 2500 posts, and we took them all away after making the character. They would probably get a special flaw that would be "No Tech", like Vampires will probably get "No Suit", "Allergic to Silver", and "Death by Sunlight".

edit: For me to be on board about psychics, they'd still probably have to be limited even more, like not starting with any perks or something. Idk we'll have to talk about it more I guess.

[jjrev609]

I have to say a psychic character seems to be way too much. I feel as tho vampires are pushing it far enough and psychics would just put us over the line. In short i think psychic characters will lead to some aggrivating godmodding which can be completely avoidable

[The Merc]

You could always shorten the range of physhics down to the point of them pretty much being in melee range, and even then they gotta take time to focus and gain perception as to what they're doing, this would take quite a bit of time so if a melee character were there, they would naturally be faster and can easily disrupt the psychic, and on the flipside, since their range would be so short, if they tried anything against a range character, the range character can easily gun them down first. This would force anyone being a psychic to be a really stealthy character if they wish for any kills.

[Tame]

kbell said:

Well, Sakata said in the manga that his organs had aged when he first met Cherry iirc; that doesn't mean necessarily that gantz wouldn't heal that aging when he teleports them.

He actually tells Sakurai this during the Oni mission, and says that 'a recent trip to the doctor' told him that his internal organs were aging. That implies that he went since coming to Gantz, in which case Gantz probably doesn't heal the organs.

Knowing I'm just a regular joe member without any real sway I'll say what I think of Psychics:

1) Like Vampires, they shouldn't be available to all members, otherwise they'd be everywhere. So like whoever it was said there should be a post count they have to reach first.
2) Again, like whoever it was said, they should have limited techs or perks. Or like Gattsu and Lance said, put a limit on how many times per mission they can use it, or limit range.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and I don't think Vampires should get suits.

[®onnie ®ude]

If psychics are used just how we said Vamps wouldn't be we'll most likely work out a way so that it's balanced. For right now the answer is no, but you never know later on down the road. We can't give you everything at once. Just give it some time, especially w/ all the new mechanics and shit were getting nowadays.

[KßзŁŁ]

I'll have to go check on that when I reread through the manga; I have my doubts as to whether or not Sakata would have had time to go to the doctor between missions, especially if he'd been training. I'm also not sure how many fights that was after he first got in, so while it's possible what you say is true, I'll have to check again and convince myself before I can say one way or the other with complete certainty (if it ever even gets that far)

[Tame]

KBell: Oni mission was Sakata's fourth, counting the Ring Alien and Tae missions as separate. Don't see why he wouldn't have time to go to the doctor's; Kurono and Sakurai had time to go to school, Reika to do her modelling and Old Man to sit around wetting himself plenty. It's not like they train 24/7.

Also, Ronnie, although I was putting my views across about psychics, it was cause I thought they were already a topic of discussion. I'm not pushing for them to be made a part of the RPG. I'm not really bothered whether they come about here or not.

[KßзŁŁ]

OK, well you've convinced me that he at the very least could have visited a doctor between missions (i was thinking oni mission was sakata's 2nd for some reason. There's nothing to apologize for here because you're not going off topic; this thread is about psychics just as much as animals and vampires. I WILL say that it's extremely highly unlikely that psychics will be added any time in the near future, if ever at all, though.

[Tame]

That's all good then. Like I said, I don't personally mind if psychics aren't introduced here.