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Post by KßзŁŁ on Mar 5, 2008 12:17:36 GMT -5
Hey guys, Tjad and I have been talking lately, and we thought it was high time we made an announcement involving some issues floating about.
First off, no one has been able to get in touch with Ronnie for almost a month and a half, now. Neither I nor Tjad have any idea where he is, if he's OK, or if he's even coming back. The Eastern Project has been put on hold until further notice. I don't know if Ronnie will return and continue it, but I feel we should give him some time to sort out whatever issues he might be dealing with. He's done nothing but good for the site, in my opinion, and allowing someone to take over his mod spot without first finding out what is going on with him would be disrespectful. That being said, we can't wait forever, so I invite everyone to discuss what we should do in the event that Ronnie never comes back. I really hope that he will return, but preparing for the worst can do nothing but help in the long run.
An issue that has stemmed from Ronnie's disappearance, which I would also like to talk about, is the delay of Project Collision. Without Ronnie here to give us his aliens and control Tori (IIRC she was chosen to represent southern), Collision cannot take place. It has been pushed back indefinitely until we can resolve the issue concerning Ronnie. I had been looking forward to it, as I'm sure the rest of you involved had been, but the fact remains that we simply cannot do it without Ronnie at this time. I'm not ready to believe that Ronnie is gone, but again, we need to be prepared if that is, indeed, the case. That being said, I'd like to open the floor to everyone to discuss these issues, and if anyone has any information on Ronnie, I would be eternally greatful if they shared it with Tjad and I, either privately or publicly.
Thank you for your time!
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Post by Benry on Mar 5, 2008 14:12:46 GMT -5
well if jpimpin stopped being a bitch and told us something about ronnie we would know what to do...
but in case he never comes back there's just one thing we can do i think. Decide a new mod. What else could we do? I hope we dont have to come to this. Ronnie's project was fun playing...
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Post by The Merc on Mar 5, 2008 15:18:19 GMT -5
Well... as for collision, we could have DM pick aliens and me pick aliens seperately so that'd reach the 4 mod quota. And Defectron could replace Tori.
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Post by KßзŁŁ on Mar 6, 2008 11:17:37 GMT -5
I also hope it doesn't come to replacing Ronnie, but if JP doesn't tell us anything, and Ronnie doesn't come back, then we'll pretty much be forced to. As far as his admin position is concerned, I'd feel most comfortable reinstating Defectron (if it does indeed turn out that we need to replace him; I'm not ready to believe he's gone for good for quite some time, though, so this is simply speculation at this point). I haven't talked to Tjad about it yet, mainly because I'm not ready to believe Ronnie ain't coming back.
I think if we decide a new mod for Ronnie's project, we should have them start over completely. None of us can know what Ronnie had planned, and none of us can know fully how his characters have/would have developed. Like I've said, though, I'm not ready to write Ronnie off, yet, so if we do this, it will be some time in the future.
As far as I'm concerned, you (puppet) and DM have nothing to lose by designing some new aliens. If Ronnie shows back up, those aliens can be used later on in Western, if nothing else. I'd like defectron to go ahead and choose somebody now that he would like to have replace Tori if Ronnie doesn't ever come back, because collision has already been delayed far too long as it is. I say we give Ronnie one month to come back and take his spot in collision; if he doesn't show up by April 17th, we should have things ready for collision to start by then, in my opinion. Any objections?
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Post by jjrev609 on Mar 6, 2008 14:02:36 GMT -5
I'm not ready to believe Ronnie ain't coming back. well believe it. end of story
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Post by Benry on Mar 6, 2008 14:55:38 GMT -5
jpimpin, are you serious?
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Post by Dane on Mar 6, 2008 15:52:06 GMT -5
Is there a reason why he ain't comin' back?
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Post by KßзŁŁ on Mar 6, 2008 22:17:49 GMT -5
at the risk of sounding like a douchebag, I think we deserve an explanation J. Ronnie is as close a friend as I've had on the internet. If he's gone for good, I'd like to know why. I know I'm probably not your favorite person in the world, but like I said, Ronnie is my friend, and I've been worried about him for the past month and a half. I've had a sinking feeling about this for a while, and you're the only source of information any of us have pertaining to this. Please, J, just tell us the whole story...
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Post by Benry on Mar 7, 2008 4:36:18 GMT -5
yeah i agree with kbell. Jpimpin man i thought we as a forum had formed a bond, i mean i would come here and talk even if there was no rpg cause u guys are the longest people that i have know on the internet and i think i could call u friends. Dunno if its the same with u guys. U not wanting to tell us anything makes me real worried not just because ronnie isnt coming back but cause i'm thinking something bad has happened to him... i mean he's not the type to abandon all his work he has done here just because.
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Post by The Merc on Mar 7, 2008 6:47:12 GMT -5
We should tie Jp down to a chair, fill him up with truth serum and then pistol whip him til he spills the beans on Ronnies location... then we assemble the Bump Bump Rangers for a massive assault of pure idiocy to rescue the Commander of the Bump Bump Rangers....
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Post by Shad² on Mar 7, 2008 10:32:21 GMT -5
We should tie Jp down to a chair, fill him up with truth serum and then pistol whip him til he spills the beans on Ronnies location... then we assemble the Bump Bump Rangers for a massive assault of pure idiocy to rescue the Commander of the Bump Bump Rangers.... or not of course.
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Post by Defectron on Mar 7, 2008 12:31:08 GMT -5
Well if he isn't coming back there's not too much point in holding things in place for him. In any case whatever the reason is, I'm guessing he probably told Jpimpin not to tell us what it was and is something he wants kept private, otherwise Jpimpin would not be dodging our questions as much as he has been.
I don't suppose it would be ok to give us a hint though would it?
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Post by Benry on Mar 7, 2008 14:40:43 GMT -5
just tell us if he's ok or not.
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Post by KßзŁŁ on Mar 7, 2008 21:30:27 GMT -5
For some reason, I doubt it has anything to do with Ronnie telling JP not to tell us what happened. I've been feeling something isn't right with this whole situation for some time, but I really need to know what happened. I've been drinking heavily since JP said Ronnie's not coming back.
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Post by Defectron on Mar 7, 2008 22:12:46 GMT -5
I doubt that anything really bad happened to him. If something did happen to him, I see no reason why JP would cover things up like this. The way I see it there are three conceivable reasons.
1. Ronnie told jp not to tell 2. He didn't tell him not to but he might not want to tell us for his own reasons sort of like when we didn't want to spread around the reasons why nexas left. 3. Even JP himself doesn't know, this doesn't seem likely, but it is possible so it cannot be ruled out completely.
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Post by Shad² on Mar 8, 2008 3:36:08 GMT -5
4. JP and Ronnie got in a fight which might have cause ronnie to leave. Or the cause of ronnie leaving got J and Ronnie in a fight or they're fighting but it has nothing to do with ronnie leaving.
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Post by jjrev609 on Mar 8, 2008 11:25:08 GMT -5
4. JP and Ronnie got in a fight which might have cause ronnie to leave. Or the cause of ronnie leaving got J and Ronnie in a fight or they're fighting but it has nothing to do with ronnie leaving. i lol'd when i read that. but fight irl over the site, sounds kinda stupid ya know? meh ronnie's gone and that's how it is. So don't mope around, don't demand answers, don't fall into a drunken depression, ronnie definetly wouldn't want this. Yea ronnie was the best person we had and we can't replace him, but at least try to make up for him instead of trying to find him. Figure out how to keep this place alive without him and don't let all this hard work go to waste
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Post by Defectron on Mar 8, 2008 13:14:50 GMT -5
I agree, though I kind of wish you told us about this sooner.
In any case I think what we should do now is find someone to replace him as the mod for eastern. If Kbell has his stuff together my suggestion would be for him to do it, but if not is anyone else up to the task?
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Post by KßзŁŁ on Mar 8, 2008 14:33:44 GMT -5
I'd be willing to take over Eastern, but if that happens, I'm still starting from the beginning. I don't want to try to mod someone else's NPCs, and I don't think anyone but Ronnie knows the direction he would have taken. Some of you guys may want to move the storyline of Eastern on, and I'd be willing to participate via zero, but I have ideas that need a brand new setting to work. I think we should continue as planned for southern, with me taking over after defectron's next mission, and maybe have some sort of try-outs (which we could use forever mission for) to have someone take Ronnie's place. It will have to be decided by everyone whether we want to start from scratch with that, or continue on the path Ronnie had laid down, but for now, I think my vote goes to starting from scratch.
I know it may have seemed like I was demanding answers, but think about this from my point of view; I've heard nothing from my friend for almost 2 months. The only conclusion I can come to, while I hate to say it, is that he's dead.
You're right that Ronnie wouldn't want us to mope around, but I don't think he'd want us kept in dark about the details of his passing, either. If he was indeed shot, where was he when it happened? Where was he shot (on his body)? Do you know who did it? Has justice been served? These are questions that have been rattling around in my brain for weeks now; you not telling me what happened isn't sparing me any pain. It's simply creating more.
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Post by Defectron on Mar 8, 2008 15:02:30 GMT -5
Wait where did you hear he was shot? Are you just using that as an example or did someone tell you that this is what really happened? Nothings been said about this anywhere, did Jpimpin send you some sort of message about this? If that's what really happened I'm going to be pissed that this was covered up.
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Post by Benry on Mar 8, 2008 17:11:49 GMT -5
nah he's just speculating but that is what was been lurking around my mind too...
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Post by Defectron on Mar 8, 2008 17:13:52 GMT -5
If thats all just speculation I find it very unlikely thats what would happen since jpimpin doesn't have any real motive to stay quiet about something like that.
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Post by Shad² on Mar 8, 2008 20:22:51 GMT -5
the first thread about ronnie J said he was shot, but nobody took it seriously. I guess Ronnie left for some reason he doesn't want us to know and we should respect. Maybe somewhere in the future we'll find out. There's no point in speculating, just like J said, we need to just move on. For now all me and Kbell can do is try and live up to Ronnie's achievements for this place as admin.
What we do with Eastern imo is let Kbell take it over and start from scratch and have Def (if he wants to) continue with Southern.
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Post by The Merc on Mar 8, 2008 22:46:40 GMT -5
If we are ditching Ronnie as the mod for East then we should take the current East and move it into a secure location so if Ronnie ever does return, be it as a zombie with a hole in the chest, or something else, he can continue it if he wants.
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Post by jjrev609 on Mar 9, 2008 0:35:16 GMT -5
I'm not ready to believe Ronnie ain't coming back. well believe it. end of story once again, he's not coming back....
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Post by Defectron on Mar 9, 2008 1:15:52 GMT -5
[quoteWhat we do with Eastern imo is let Kbell take it over and start from scratch and have Def (if he wants to) continue with Southern.][/quote]
Southerns story will end in the next mission and I don't really feel like starting up another one at the moment. Though sometime in the future I do plan to do Gantz final wars but I want at least a couple months break before getting back into serious modding, I'll still be doing comedy gantz though.
Anyway, all you guys need to stop asking Jpimpin what happened to Ronnie, he's obviously got his reasons for not talking. The fact that he isn't talking in itself should signify that Ronnie is in fact alive and well, if he was dead or something like that there would be no reason to cover this up.
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Post by The Merc on Mar 9, 2008 2:40:09 GMT -5
Anyway, all you guys need to stop asking Jpimpin what happened to Ronnie, he's obviously got his reasons for not talking. The fact that he isn't talking in itself should signify that Ronnie is in fact alive and well, if he was dead or something like that there would be no reason to cover this up. Defectron has it! It's a Government Conspiracy!
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Post by Shad² on Mar 9, 2008 6:42:10 GMT -5
I believe we have reached a conclusion in this thread and it has served it's purpose well. the discussion about what we do with Eastern will continue in a different thread.
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