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Post by ®onnie ®ude on Apr 6, 2008 19:39:26 GMT -5
Dane allow me to break this shit down to you. The definition, yes Dane, the definition of an alien is what defines what is and what isn't an alien. Not Gantz. An alien is something foreign and vampires are foreign mythical creatures. Does that solve this? No it doesn't. I agree with your definition and respect you a great deal, but all I want is Balance to explain his definition of an alien. I am perfectly willing to accept that the vampire are aliens, I just want to know why Balance said that they were listed as enemies by Gantz. A clear explanation. That is all I want, then all this foolishness can end. ROFLMFAO...just open up a new thread lol.
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Post by jjrev609 on Apr 6, 2008 19:47:49 GMT -5
see this is wut i meant by "before it gets any stupider". Dane, Ronnie basically gave a general meaning of balance's meaning of why vamps are aliens and me saying that the vampires are a possible threat to Gantz is what I assume Balance means by saying they are an enemy group. Please stop trying to get an answer from him and let us move on
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Post by Benry on Apr 7, 2008 11:09:03 GMT -5
While in some cases alien means a foreigner, in Gantz it means beings from outer space it means beings from outer space AHAHAHAHAH!!1111 seriously... you say this and demand answers from others? Go re-read the manga...
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Post by Defectron on Apr 7, 2008 11:19:58 GMT -5
According to Oku, though some vampires were once human, they are now classifed as aliens by gantz.
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Post by ®onnie ®ude on Apr 7, 2008 13:28:53 GMT -5
Now, now lets knock it off w/ the insults and shit. Dane is mah bish and only I have the privilege of shaming him.
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Post by Benry on Apr 7, 2008 13:47:13 GMT -5
hmm well i wasnt insulting him, i was just saying that he shouldnt ask questions that aren't realy important before knowing the more important parts of the manga.
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Post by Dane on Apr 7, 2008 14:25:56 GMT -5
Now, now lets knock it off w/ the insults and shit. Dane is mah bish and only I have the privilege of shaming him. Uhm... 'kay...? lol
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Post by jjrev609 on Apr 7, 2008 14:37:35 GMT -5
so mad u didn't defend urself man
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Post by Benry on Apr 7, 2008 14:55:06 GMT -5
against whom?
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Post by jjrev609 on Apr 7, 2008 14:57:38 GMT -5
dane just accepted bein ronnie's bish....
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Post by Benry on Apr 7, 2008 14:58:59 GMT -5
aha, but i think he was joking since he put the " "and "lol" at the end. Could just be me though...
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Post by Dane on Apr 7, 2008 15:01:29 GMT -5
Benry, you got it right on the nose, sir.
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Post by KßзŁŁ on Apr 9, 2008 1:14:43 GMT -5
if dane can't use logic, he becomes everybody's bitch.
Now dane, I understand people should be respected, and I respected you until you refused to make a new topic about this; you need to keep on topic, and this topic is for figuring out how we should approach using animals and vampires inside RPs. You've been using this topic for defining "aliens"; that's not what this topic is for. If you're going to ignore the rules, then you can't quote them for protection. Don't try and say "respect me" by quoting the rules when you're not adhering to them yourself. We use adult language and call each other names here... you've been here a while, so you should have thick enough skin to take a simple insult when you're acting like an idiot. If you want to debate this shit, CREATE A NEW TOPIC ABOUT IT. I can't say it more plainly, so just go ahead and fucking do it.
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Post by jjrev609 on Apr 9, 2008 9:00:38 GMT -5
if dane can't use logic, he becomes everybody's bitch. Now dane, I understand people should be respected, and I respected you until you refused to make a new topic about this; you need to keep on topic, and this topic is for figuring out how we should approach using animals and vampires inside RPs. You've been using this topic for defining "aliens"; that's not what this topic is for. If you're going to ignore the rules, then you can't quote them for protection. Don't try and say "respect me" by quoting the rules when you're not adhering to them yourself. We use adult language and call each other names here... you've been here a while, so you should have thick enough skin to take a simple insult when you're acting like an idiot. If you want to debate this shit, CREATE A NEW TOPIC ABOUT IT. I can't say it more plainly, so just go ahead and fucking do it. you know we're done right?
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Post by KßзŁŁ on Apr 9, 2008 13:48:11 GMT -5
OK well what does everybody think about including all aliens that would become hunters in the 750 or 1000 post count deduction bracket; not just vampires?
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Post by Benry on Apr 9, 2008 14:21:25 GMT -5
if i'm understanding it right u mean that aliens that could be gantz enemies, like the Oni Boss alien can be gantzers right? If that's it, that would be a definite NO for me.
Doing that would stray completely from gantz. We wouldn't call it the Gantz RPG anymore. It seems to me like we're vandalizing it in some way. Plus u would have to consider all of the different alien abilities...
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Post by KßзŁŁ on Apr 9, 2008 14:26:50 GMT -5
You are correct Benry. My point is, in the past, hunters with god-like abilities have shown up anyways; putting a post restriction on them would make it so that they couldn't just pop up left and right. Also, people can PVP in the rooms, so if you see a hunter that you don't agree with (I.E. shadow dokuko... she was a hunter IIRC) that runs missions and takes all the points, you can attack them yourself. If the mod of the character (or NPC) doesn't have the NPC paying attention, people can call shenanigans or something if the mod gives the "post count" character the hero shield (a guy with a hero shield is a generic term for somebody that miraculously survives all the time).
edit: also, vampires have entered gantz, so we're not straying from it that much. Obviously any alien holding onto a gantzer as they teleported would transfer with the hunter, and become a hunter itself.
second edit: perhaps this transfer rule only applies right before a mission, when everyone is called into the room for briefings? I seem to remember that after the shape shifter mission, the old man was in contact with one of the vampires... maybe they let him go, but I don't have the resources to look that up right now.
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Post by jjrev609 on Apr 9, 2008 14:40:43 GMT -5
Dan was a hunter but Shadow is not. As for alien hunters we should only allow vampires, throwing in all the other aliens is straying way too far of the intended plan and like Benry said we can't call ourselves The Gantz RPG anymore. Stick to the Vampires and the animals if anyone uses them. To be honest 750 doesn't sound so bad as a post requirement for vamps.
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Post by KßзŁŁ on Apr 9, 2008 16:28:06 GMT -5
OK, I'm not opposed to just using vampires (I really don't want any other aliens in the projects anyways), so for now, I say we should only allow vampires as playable "aliens". If someone needs an NPC like the cyclops or something (can't remember what project that was in) for story purposes, we can discuss that when it becomes an issue.
I think 200 posts for animals and 750 for vampires is much more reasonable; hell, I think those were the post requirements (and deductions) I had suggested to begin with when we were still dreaming up how to make animals and vampires privileges as opposed to rights.
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Post by The Merc on Apr 9, 2008 19:40:41 GMT -5
Still say there should be a 1 free pet for mods... >.>
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Post by KßзŁŁ on Apr 9, 2008 21:08:45 GMT -5
I know you do, Balance, but that's probably not going to happen.
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